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FAQs - Part 2

    Table of Contents  Questions you might ask.

1. I'm a beginner at auto body repair, can I really learn your method of bare-metal-finishing with The Friction System ... ?

2. How long does the Heat Shrinking Disc last ... ?

3. I’ve read about your Friction System in many magazines, your method makes sense to me and I believe your System will can be useful on a project car I am working on. I have never done auto body repair before, what tools do you recommend I start out with…..?

4. Why is it important to have The Complete Friction System Kit?....I was thinking that all I need is the Heat Shrinking Disc ... ?

5. I have been doing bodywork for many years, over 30 years now. I am very good at metal-finishing using the traditional style and techniques of pick and file. I can move metal where I want it and I can many times get the surface primer ready without fillers.

How would the Friction System benefit me... ?

Please read question #1... it relates to all... even the very experienced.

1.   I'm a beginner at auto body repair, can I really learn your method of bare-metal finishing with The Friction System ... ?

bulletYes, most definitely! Anyone can learn how to use The Friction System no matter their experience level. Even if they have never picked up a hammer or dolly, they can learn how to repair dents by following what is taught in the Training Videos. Our step-by-step Training Videos are very thorough to teach you a new skill, the skill of bare-metal-finishing. You will be taught the overall concepts of our new method as related to basic sheetmetal theory.

 

bulletLearn and understand what a dent is, "the definition of a dent," defining the wavy areas, the high and low spots.  What are they? What causes them? How does one deal with them? Learn about the damaged metal molecules. How the use of friction heat allows the movement of the molecules to realign and become repositioned, so they can return to their original contour. This will cause the dent to disappear and become a bare-metal-finished panel.

 

bullet Being that all types of metals are made up of millions of molecules, when any of these molecules get damaged and misaligned they all will react to heat this same way.

 

bulletThis means The Friction System can work on many different types of sheetmetal;
bulletThick metal of the old classics (16, 18, 20 gauge)
bulletHigh strength steel panels of the late model cars (21, 22 gauge)
bulletAluminum body panels and side mouldings
bulletBrass (as in a radiator shell)
bulletStainless steel panels and body mouldings
bulletOur videos are so thorough we include instructions about hammers and dollies that most people don’t know. Are the faces of your body tools shaped perfectly?  Being that their shapes get transferred to the panel it is very important. We show you how to check them, then demonstrate how to fix them. We explain where to hold a hammer, how to swing a hammer, how hard to hit the metal and how to use those techniques correctly on the metal. You will notice that hammering will become easier and effortless, because you will develop a new rhythm and swing in hitting your metal.

 

bulletIn order to learn these techniques, the Videos will have to be viewed as many times as necessary.  From the feedback we have received;

A.  Hobbyists normally view it 3 - 10 times depending on their experience. 

B.  Professionals in the business will view it 2 - 4 times also depending on their skill level 

 

bulletYou need to start out using our System on a 2" to 3" diameter dent on an open fender panel where you have access to both front and backside of the panel. 

 

bulletDo not start on a hood, roof or trunk panel. They are more complicated and tricky to repair when you are beginning.  Some beginners do not realize how easy it is to overheat and over-shrink these types of panels. You need to practice on smaller dents first, so when you become better skilled using our Complete System you will have more success on larger dented panels.

 

bullet All of the vital information and detailed instructions covered in the Training Videos  must be understood and practiced before our method will perform for anyone.
 
                                                      ( Above are actual scenes from the video set. )
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2.   How long does the Heat Shrinking Disc last ... ?   

                                                                 

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Our Friction System users have been giving us constant feedback for the last 15 years. . .

This is what they have told us;

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For a Collision Repair Bodyshop

    One Heat Shrinking Disc will last between 1 and 1 ½ years per bodyman.

 

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For a large Restoration Shop

   One Disc will last about 6 months. This when it is being used by metalmen whose only job is repairing and straightening body panels, welding in patch panels for rust repairs and performing custom metalwork. (Such as chopping tops, frenching headlights, shaving door handles etc.)

 

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For the hobbyist

    A new Disc will be reordered in about 3 to 10 years, depending upon how often they have used it...and how many friends have borrowed it!

Be careful... we've had customers who's friends wouldn't give it back. 

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3.   I’ve read about your Friction System in many magazines, your system makes sense to me and I believe your system can be useful on the project car I am working on. I have never done auto body repair before. What tools do you recommend I start out with…?

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4.   Why is it important to have The Complete Friction System Kit ... ? I was thinking that all I need is the Heat Shrinking Disc.

bullet In the past we sold the Heat Shrinking Disc by itself, then added some accessories only as customer options.  At this time we had customers who had many mixed results, some never getting it to work at all. So, out of customer requests we developed a Training Video Set, then put together "The KIT" that now produces the 100% satisfaction of our users today. Now they are taught all the important concepts and techniques on how to use the System correctly. For our users that have been doing metalwork for many years, they have expressed to us that we have changed their way of thinking and how they now approach dent repair.

 

bulletOnce you have used our methods and have worn out your first Heat Shrinking Disc, a replacement disc is available.  Only then you will realize that you have saved hundreds and hundreds of labor hours and if you are a shop just multiple that by your hourly rate, $40, $60, $80 an hour. The cost of "The KIT" is a very minimal expense when considering you are investing in yourself to learn and develop a new skill level of panel beating.

 

bullet 2004 is our 16th year in business, selling tools. Before this our background was been restoring customer cars for 17 years.  During those years we performed ground up restorations on high end cars. The 911 and 356 Porsches were 90% of our projects. Our Complete Friction System Kit evolved after our 10th year in the tool business.

 

bullet If you want to achieve the results shown, our users have proven it is vital to begin with "The KIT".   It includes all of the correct items needed to make our method of bare metal-finishing work.

 

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Our methods are easier to master and faster to produce the desired results.

"Let us teach you correctly."

 

    You will soon learn that... "This is the perfect solution for bare-metal-finishing."

Read about the amazing results, others have achieved!

Click here to go to our Customer Letters.

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It is very important for our Heat Shrinking Disc to have the proper backing support when mounted to the body grinder.  We supply the correct 7" polypropylene backing (which is a very stiff plastic), a 9" fiber support pad and the correct tapered center nut with a 5/8 x 11 thread.  Do not use the 1/4" thick black rubber backing pads. They flex too much and will allow an unsafe condition. If the Heat Shrinking Disc is not properly supported it can develop a crack around the center nut. We are trying to prevent this problem.

We supply three of our Strip-It Discs with an arbor setup for cleaning and stripping body panels to bare metal.  We provide the best stripping discs. They last about 2X longer than comparable products available in stores.  We also use this cleaning disc to periodically reclean the metal surface throughout the repair process and at the very end just before primer. It is the best method to clean metal we have found, no sparks means no metal is being removed.

A can of Blue Dye is included, which is sometimes applied 2 to 4 times on every dent.  This is our trick method to reveal the high and low areas across the panel surface.  (Detailed instructions are included in "The KIT".)  One can of dye will be used in repairing 15 to 20 dents, at an average size of 12 inches. Extra cans are available for $11.50 plus minimal shipping.

To complete "The KIT", five 9" - 80 grit abrasive discs are included, to be used in the final phase of our method of bare-metal-finishing.  Our abrasive discs are heat treated and stiffer, so they mount up flatter.  Our users always come back us to reorder this product, since they find it difficult to locate at their local stores. Extra 80 grit discs are $2.10 each. 

Here's a Tip:  To make all sandpaper, masking tape and abrasive discs last for many years, store them in a refrigerator.

No moisture... No drying out.... Means no warpage.

It could last forever. We've had 2" masking tape last 10 years!

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5.   I have been doing bodywork for many years, over 30 years now. I am very good at metal-finishing using the traditional style and techniques of pick and file. I can move metal where I want it and I can many times get the surface primer ready without fillers.

How would the Friction System benefit me... ?

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It can cut your current repair labor time by 50% or less. There are few of you experts who can do the pick and file technique effectively. Usually it takes many hours, sometimes days, even weeks to repair a panel. This method of repair is very time consuming and tedious, which sometimes can become very frustrating. According to our users who are ex-pick-and-filers, applying the principles that are taught in our Training Videos have cut their normal repair time by at least half! 

The reasons are:

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They do not use the torch

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They do not use the pick & file anymore.

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By using some new and refined techniques of hammer and dolly they are physically faster and more accurate.

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They have learned to shrink the stretched areas more accurately and quicker than ever before.

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The hard-to-control "oil can" problems can disappear in 10 to 15 minutes. All these are reasons why they can   do metalwork so much faster.

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They all said, "I was skeptical at first, when I was reading about the System. After thinking about the heating theory, it does make sense on how it could work".

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Now they are all glad to use a System that works....working exactly as described.

For instance, we have very skilled customers who have told us that their repair time on a badly rusted-out lower section of a Porsche door skin and door jam normally took them 40 repair hours. Now they have been able to do two doors in one week. 

That's 80 billed labor hours in one week:  80 X  $45 per hour = $3,600.00

Another example, was a 1965 - 356 Porsche rear panel damage, caused by a bumper impact, caved in from taillight to taillight.  The normal repair time would be between 25 to 32 hours. Customers have told us they have been able to repair this in only one day. This was done in 8 hours and they were able to apply just primer with a little glazing putty in certain areas where the System could not be used. An overall skim coat of any filler was not necessary.

        That's 25 billed labor hours in one day: 25  X  $45 per hour = $1,125.00

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It is a more accurate and controlled method to move the metal back to where it belongs. It can move it exactly back to it's original position. The old style pick and file technique is not the perfect method, because metal is being filing off, making the sheetmetal thinner in an uneven pattern. Sometimes, filing so much, it is possible to file completely through the panel. Even though some feel that they have a fair amount of control over the panel with this method, by using the techniques of The Friction System our users have achieved complete control over the  metal throughout the repair process. When you lose this control you stop and apply bondo or filler.

The goal is always try to stay in control of the metal.

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